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https://www.instagram.com/feral_detroit/

wind data


orgs

interesting papers or news articles

Cool documentaries about corvids and animal intelligence

Beak and Brain: Genius Birds from Down Under (kind of a goofy narrator but I put up with him to watch this fun show)


fun posts from corvid cognition station

  • Smarta korpar ger svar om evolution interview with Mathias Osvath. fun scenes of two ravens playing with his jacket and pockets.
  • more media “You are right about hte playfulness - the ravens love to go through are pockets, and enjoy tearing things apart. It could be paper, our clothes, or toys that we give them. This spring, two papers on raven play will be published, so look out for them here on the blog!”
  • new lookout points “But even if the new perches are fun, they cannot beat my winterjacket all ravens’ favourite - with loads of pockets to be turned inside out. No attention paid to the fact that the one wearing it is clinging to a ladder with all hands and arms busy.”
  • smelly clams “get it stuffed into our pockets or into our collars. It has happened more than once that we have sensed a weird odour half a day…before finding a piece of rotten liver, neatly hidden in one of our pockets. This is why fish and seafood is best given frozen, or when the temperature is below zero.”
  • secret places “The aviaries can look quite boring and rubbishy this time of year, with old shoes and boots lying around. But when you take closer look… …you find than an old rubber boot can be the perfect hiding place for a piece of grilled chicken. Especially if you cover the chicken with a dried leaf.”<

radio transcript

radio interview

I was able to get a transcript in Swedish and put it through google translate. Here are some excerpts.

about neophobia

there is something called neophobia. And that’s it … First, so are they scared of everything new. Then stir them not at all, because it can be dangerous. Then they go over a threshold and when they are sure that it is not dangerous, and it may a long time, therefore, it can take weeks if you throw in something there … then picks them break it into small pieces. So they’re both scared than other birds and much more curious. And then you never know what they are afraid of and not. I do not have a single colleague who either have arrived at exactly what they are afraid of.

interesting interaction with stone

TEXT: Helena sits outside the aviary and gives None, on the other side of the grille, a stone. None receives it with its beak, lays it on the ground and poking out the back, through the bars, to Helena. Again and again.

-In Their own repertoire they give the stuff to each other all the time, it included as well as in social giving each other sometimes completely meaningless things to show appreciation. So it is being in judgment.

Interviewer: But she comes back all the time, she thinks this is funny?

Yeah, they think this is great fun. It is one of their favorite paraphernalia. I do not know why. They Think this is much more fun than pulling the strings. The tire of them much faster. Yes. Which is a problem when you want to do studies where they will pull the strings.

funny theft

She enjoys the attention. She is brave.

/ Small talk with None /

Interviewer: They Took the movie camera for you yesterday ...

Yes, they stole the film camera, one of those tiny, expensive thing. But what you have to do then is to not try to take it or chase them. I have learned from experience. Because then put them down and start looking at it and fiddling with it. But if you directly try to take it, then sticks them with it. So I managed to save it with no problems.

Interviewer: They Took it out of his hand on you?

-ur Pocket. They have stolen my wallet sometime too. And then I was stupid enough to chase them and then they took out money as they tore apart. Czech crowns was it. So it will be 500 Czech crowns in here somewhere. But I have not seen them.

And about five pairs of earrings. Or one pair anyway, then so it must always consider ...

-They Know we can not fly, so it utilizes them the right when trying to take away from them. So one should pretend nothing. You take it, that I did not care about. Pretend you. Then distracts one's judgment.

Yes, it was a little button she buttoned up here.

Silk removes hose nozzle

/ Scene water hose in the aviary ... /

TEXT: It has become the autumn and the Ravens have become accustomed to me now. I can stand close, off the grid, and watch as Helena and Mathias playing with them.

-Oh, She keeps on with this little disgusting piece of meat that has been in the water. Look. It has she sat in now in my pockets since I came in here ...

TEXT: Silk and Juno, None and Rickard jumping and flapping around them, curious to see what happens, expectant ...

Interviwer: Who is it you have on hand?

-It's Silk.

Interviewer: And what does he do?

He examines the nozzle to the hose. Everything that one can dissociate, sharing, open cans or pick up things like this, it really employ them forever.

TEXT: Silk proves to be an expert in his beak disconnect a water hose with spray nozzle.

-If You put the hose with the nozzle on, so take them to the right so that the water runs out, so it can not. One must always keep an eye ...

We can of course see an art ...

biting corner of eye

Interviewer: They Really like you. They hang this on you and around you when you're in here ...?

-Yes ...

That's why I prefer not to just go out here to look at something when they are here. For then would they that you should enter. It feels so lousy to just go away. Then they can of course sit and pick one of the lashes and I think many people seem uncomfortable.

Interviewer: Yeah, is not it?

-Alltså I rely on the judgment. But so does the terrible pain when they squeeze into the outer eyelid skin ... And then one can not scream and throw themselves on the right and left.

giving and hierarchies

-Although I tend to get stuff and give it back. (---) And it appears to be associated with hierarchies and who you want to be close or not.And what I saw last time was that Juno was very upset that Rickad got too close, so then she did a show and was högaggressiv. Then he took a tuft of grass as he tore up, and so he handed it to her and she took it and all her feathers went down and she calmed down and walked away. So more like that observations or different times will of course help us to understand at least what they use objects to.

And I have also noticed that if they turn sour when one is in there (---) or something happens, you should just give them ... I usually give them a dandelion, then calms them down. It's some kind of social signal in the whole.

play versus tool use

TEXT: What about the research then? Planning experiments was not conducted as it was intended, but items study was to implement and kept the deadline.

-It Went completely beyond expectations. We compared the then ravens, jackdaws and New Caledonia crows, thus kortnäbbade crows, as it is called in Swedish much then. And the interesting thing here is, then, the comparison to order the new Caledonian crows use tools in the wild, still, and it is important for them to survive. And jackdaws does not hide food in general. And so we have then the Ravens, who do not use tools, but hiding food. And so we compared when this particular objektsgömmandet. (---)

And when it appeared then, oddly enough, that the Ravens were the ones who thought it was most interesting to take objects and hide them. We'd also food laid out then. And the ravens were the ones who most ignored the food and took the items. And it's interesting, why, why is it so important items? A round wooden ball or a stick or whatever ... What's the point of that? And another interesting thing that we found, that was jackdaws, that they also take objects and hide, though they do not do it with food. So it's all about when, far, far back in time, maybe 20-18 one million years ago, what was the type of ancestor they had there. It's a little hard to explain, but it may be relevant to how they actually developed matgömmandet, based on being then extremely inquisitive and explorative on the new stuff they find. And that by engaging in such activities and play, because it's play, that's how it looks, so one can think of these things as hiding food etc.

-Alltså Results say nothing definite, but they say something that has not been said before, and they were of course very easy to implement and it was ... So now it's me who has the Ravens, so then, I'm extra proud that they ... in retrospect one can say it ... that they behaved in a very ... that they were more interested in objects than tools using birds. For it is contrary to previous studies and how to have thought about it. But then there are other studies that have been going on as we will now publish, dealing Play ...

stinky pockets

TEXT: ... finally I am also the INSIDE of the aviary. So big they are. Shiny black. The beak like a Swiss Army knife, largest model.

Is that the paste?

No, Juno, do not do it!

TEXT: Helena and Mathias has just served food and has several ravens flapping around him and sitting on him, on his shoulders and on his outstretched arms. The Ravens are busy hiding pieces of meat in their jackets. I stand beside my secret microphone and trying to ... relax ...

-You Got something in my neck where ...?

Yes, you often get something in the neck. Sometimes you notice it until one comes in and takes off his jacket, so droves it down.

And then hiding them often in your pockets. So that's why you have to have special clothes.

-Do You want to outsource my hat, she does not accept that I have it in me. Thank you. It's lucky that they have not come to them to feed us.

-Yes.

-Because There are some crows feeding the people they know, because it's a way to express ... Then press them down rotten meat in the mouth of one. There is nothing we should teach them either. Or encourage them to. You see, even though they have completely fresh food here, so take them meat that is not neat and eat instead.